Quotes of the Morning: Rummy's Return
“When UPI's Pam Hess asked about torture by Iraqi authorities, Rumsfeld replied that ‘obviously, the United States does not have a responsibility’ other than to voice disapproval.
But Pace had a different view. ‘It is the absolute responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it,’ the general said.
Rumsfeld interjected: ‘I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it's to report it.’
But Pace meant what he said. ‘If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it,’ he said, firmly.
-Washington Post, November 30, 2005
“Heck yes.. Well stated General Pace. I mean, stopping torture when we find it is exactly the kind of thing that we need to be doing in order to shore up our international reputation and to help protect our own troops in harm’s way.”
-Skippy
“Last Nov. 13, U.S. soldiers found 173 incarcerated men, some of them emaciated and showing signs of torture, in a secret bunker in an Interior Ministry compound in central Baghdad. The soldiers immediately transferred the men to a separate detention facility to protect them from further abuse, the U.S. military reported.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“Yes! I’m proud when I see things like this.. This is the way it should be run.”
-Skippy
“Since then, there have been at least six joint U.S.-Iraqi inspections of detention centers, most of them run by Iraq's Shiite Muslim-dominated Interior Ministry. Two sources involved with the inspections, one Iraqi official and one U.S. official, said abuse of prisoners was found at all the sites visited through February. U.S. military authorities confirmed that signs of severe abuse were observed at two of the detention centers.
But U.S. troops have not responded by removing all the detainees, as they did in November. Instead, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials, only a handful of the most severely abused detainees at a single site were removed for medical treatment. Prisoners at two other sites were removed to alleviate overcrowding. U.S. and Iraqi authorities left the rest where they were.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“Somehow you just knew that it wasn’t going to last, didn’t you? Rummy wins again.. The saddest thing is that, for once, at least it isn’t American troops doing it. And that is considered progress. Probably not much of a relief to the people being tortured though.”
-Skippy
“[Lt. Col. Kevin] Curry added in a statement, ‘At one of the sites, thirteen detainees showed signs of abuse that required immediate medical care. The signs of abuse included broken bones, indications that they had been beaten with hoses and wires, signs that they had been hung from the ceiling, and cigarette burns. These individuals were transferred to a nearby Iraqi detention facility and provided medical care. Most of the abuse appeared to have occurred prior to arriving at that site.
‘There were several cases of physical abuse at one other inspection site. These included evidence of scars, missing toenails, dislocated shoulders, severe bruising, and cigarette burns. At the time of the inspection, most of the apparent injuries were months old; however, there were indications that three cases of abuse occurred within a week of the inspection. No detainee required immediate hospitalization for injuries at that site,’ Curry said.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“I’m just happy that we’ve been able to take a despot like Saddam out of power and put in these people in his place. The world is so much better for it, and it makes the deaths of all of those soldiers (and Iraqi civilians) seem so worthwhile..”
-Skippy
“Terrorist violence in Iraq is up in every category in 2005, including armed attacks and kidnappings. The official said Iraq will represent more than 50 percent of the total increase in terrorist incidents. The year before, the center said there were 866 terror attacks against civilians and other noncombatants there.”
-Associated Press, April 22, 2006
But Pace had a different view. ‘It is the absolute responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it,’ the general said.
Rumsfeld interjected: ‘I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it's to report it.’
But Pace meant what he said. ‘If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it,’ he said, firmly.
-Washington Post, November 30, 2005
“Heck yes.. Well stated General Pace. I mean, stopping torture when we find it is exactly the kind of thing that we need to be doing in order to shore up our international reputation and to help protect our own troops in harm’s way.”
-Skippy
“Last Nov. 13, U.S. soldiers found 173 incarcerated men, some of them emaciated and showing signs of torture, in a secret bunker in an Interior Ministry compound in central Baghdad. The soldiers immediately transferred the men to a separate detention facility to protect them from further abuse, the U.S. military reported.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“Yes! I’m proud when I see things like this.. This is the way it should be run.”
-Skippy
“Since then, there have been at least six joint U.S.-Iraqi inspections of detention centers, most of them run by Iraq's Shiite Muslim-dominated Interior Ministry. Two sources involved with the inspections, one Iraqi official and one U.S. official, said abuse of prisoners was found at all the sites visited through February. U.S. military authorities confirmed that signs of severe abuse were observed at two of the detention centers.
But U.S. troops have not responded by removing all the detainees, as they did in November. Instead, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials, only a handful of the most severely abused detainees at a single site were removed for medical treatment. Prisoners at two other sites were removed to alleviate overcrowding. U.S. and Iraqi authorities left the rest where they were.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“Somehow you just knew that it wasn’t going to last, didn’t you? Rummy wins again.. The saddest thing is that, for once, at least it isn’t American troops doing it. And that is considered progress. Probably not much of a relief to the people being tortured though.”
-Skippy
“[Lt. Col. Kevin] Curry added in a statement, ‘At one of the sites, thirteen detainees showed signs of abuse that required immediate medical care. The signs of abuse included broken bones, indications that they had been beaten with hoses and wires, signs that they had been hung from the ceiling, and cigarette burns. These individuals were transferred to a nearby Iraqi detention facility and provided medical care. Most of the abuse appeared to have occurred prior to arriving at that site.
‘There were several cases of physical abuse at one other inspection site. These included evidence of scars, missing toenails, dislocated shoulders, severe bruising, and cigarette burns. At the time of the inspection, most of the apparent injuries were months old; however, there were indications that three cases of abuse occurred within a week of the inspection. No detainee required immediate hospitalization for injuries at that site,’ Curry said.”
-Washington Post, April 23, 2006
“I’m just happy that we’ve been able to take a despot like Saddam out of power and put in these people in his place. The world is so much better for it, and it makes the deaths of all of those soldiers (and Iraqi civilians) seem so worthwhile..”
-Skippy
“Terrorist violence in Iraq is up in every category in 2005, including armed attacks and kidnappings. The official said Iraq will represent more than 50 percent of the total increase in terrorist incidents. The year before, the center said there were 866 terror attacks against civilians and other noncombatants there.”
-Associated Press, April 22, 2006
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