Quotes of the Morning: Good Morning Vietnam!
“Fearless Leader has chosen now, following the electoral defeat of the Republican Party, to take in a little travel. Hmm… If I were the President and my Party had just lost an election based on how an ongoing military conflict was turning out where would I want to travel to?”
-Skippy
“’Laura and I were talking about how amazing it is that we’re here in Vietnam,’ the president said.”
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“That is fairly amazing. I mean, before now Fearless Leader did everything possible to avoid going to Vietnam.”
-Skippy
“Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president's military service - and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard...
A few months before Mr. Bush would become eligible for the draft, Barnes says he had a meeting with the late oilman Sid Adger, a friend to both Barnes and then-Congressman George Bush.
‘It's been a long time ago, but he said basically would I help young George Bush get in the Air National Guard,’ says Barnes, who then contacted his longtime friend Gen. James Rose, the head of Texas' Air National Guard.
‘I was a young ambitious politician doing what I thought was acceptable,’ says Barnes. ‘It was important to make friends. And I recommended a lot of people for the National Guard during the Vietnam era - as speaker of the house and as lt. governor.’
George W. Bush was among those he recommended for the National Guard. Was this a case of preferential treatment?
‘I would describe it as preferential treatment. There were hundreds of names on the list of people wanting to get into the Air National Guard or the Army National Guard,’ says Barnes. ‘I think that would have been a preference to anybody that didn't want to go to Vietnam or didn't want to leave. We had a lot of young men that left and went to Canada in the '60s and fled this country. But those that could get in the Reserves, or those that could get in the National Guard - chances are they would not have to go to Vietnam.’"
-60 Minutes, September 8, 2004
“Yes, we all know about the forged documents, Dan Rather, blah, blah, blah, but that doesn’t change the fact that Fearless Leader did in fact get preferential treatment to get into the Texas National Guard, where he served until he stopped showing up. Still, even without physically being there, Vietnam managed to teach Fearless Leader some lessons…”
-Skippy
"I learned some good lessons from Vietnam. First, there must be a clear mission. Secondly, the politics ought to stay out of fighting a war. There was too much politics during the Vietnam War. There was too much concern in the White House about political standing.”
-George ‘Dubya’ Bush, March 13, 2002
“Of course some of these lessons he learned better than others. One thing has stuck with him though…”
-Skippy
“President Bush said Friday the United States’ unsuccessful war in Vietnam three decades ago offered lessons for the American-led struggle in Iraq. ‘We’ll succeed unless we quit,’ Bush said shortly after arriving in this one-time war capital.”
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“Yep. The main lesson that Dubya learned from Vietnam is that if we had just stayed there longer we wouldn’t have lost. Apparently it is this lesson, rather than the lessons about clear missions or politics staying out of fighting a war, that he has chosen to implement in Iraq. This is the kind of decisive military genius that we need to have leading us in these difficult times.”
-Skippy
“If we had had the leadership of a George W. Bush back in the Vietnam War days, we probably would not have lost the war.”
-Tom DeLay, March 9, 2002
“And the reason for that is that if we had the leadership of Fearless Leader in Vietnam we never, ever, would have left. Fearless Leader, can you follow this up with one more Quote that will show your sensitivity to regional issues?”
-Skippy
“My first reaction is history has a long march and societies change and relationships can constantly be altered to the good,” Bush said.
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“Ah.. A subtle reference to the Long March, in which the Chinese Communists in 1934 retreated under attack by the Nationalist Party led by Chiang Kaishek. It was a rout of the Communists, but the retreat gave them enough room to rebuild their forces. It is also the event which led to the ascendancy of Mao to the head of the Chinese Communist Party. I’m not sure exactly what the coded message is on this one. Is Dubya talking about retreat in the face of possible defeat? Is it just some words that someone pulled out of a hat that they thought would go over well in south-east Asia? Is he threatening to leave, but later come back more powerful than before?”
-Skippy
“You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
“Here is today’s lesson. Fearless Leader believes that as long as we are fighting a war we can’t lose it, no matter how many soldiers have to die.”
-Skippy
-Skippy
“’Laura and I were talking about how amazing it is that we’re here in Vietnam,’ the president said.”
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“That is fairly amazing. I mean, before now Fearless Leader did everything possible to avoid going to Vietnam.”
-Skippy
“Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president's military service - and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard...
A few months before Mr. Bush would become eligible for the draft, Barnes says he had a meeting with the late oilman Sid Adger, a friend to both Barnes and then-Congressman George Bush.
‘It's been a long time ago, but he said basically would I help young George Bush get in the Air National Guard,’ says Barnes, who then contacted his longtime friend Gen. James Rose, the head of Texas' Air National Guard.
‘I was a young ambitious politician doing what I thought was acceptable,’ says Barnes. ‘It was important to make friends. And I recommended a lot of people for the National Guard during the Vietnam era - as speaker of the house and as lt. governor.’
George W. Bush was among those he recommended for the National Guard. Was this a case of preferential treatment?
‘I would describe it as preferential treatment. There were hundreds of names on the list of people wanting to get into the Air National Guard or the Army National Guard,’ says Barnes. ‘I think that would have been a preference to anybody that didn't want to go to Vietnam or didn't want to leave. We had a lot of young men that left and went to Canada in the '60s and fled this country. But those that could get in the Reserves, or those that could get in the National Guard - chances are they would not have to go to Vietnam.’"
-60 Minutes, September 8, 2004
“Yes, we all know about the forged documents, Dan Rather, blah, blah, blah, but that doesn’t change the fact that Fearless Leader did in fact get preferential treatment to get into the Texas National Guard, where he served until he stopped showing up. Still, even without physically being there, Vietnam managed to teach Fearless Leader some lessons…”
-Skippy
"I learned some good lessons from Vietnam. First, there must be a clear mission. Secondly, the politics ought to stay out of fighting a war. There was too much politics during the Vietnam War. There was too much concern in the White House about political standing.”
-George ‘Dubya’ Bush, March 13, 2002
“Of course some of these lessons he learned better than others. One thing has stuck with him though…”
-Skippy
“President Bush said Friday the United States’ unsuccessful war in Vietnam three decades ago offered lessons for the American-led struggle in Iraq. ‘We’ll succeed unless we quit,’ Bush said shortly after arriving in this one-time war capital.”
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“Yep. The main lesson that Dubya learned from Vietnam is that if we had just stayed there longer we wouldn’t have lost. Apparently it is this lesson, rather than the lessons about clear missions or politics staying out of fighting a war, that he has chosen to implement in Iraq. This is the kind of decisive military genius that we need to have leading us in these difficult times.”
-Skippy
“If we had had the leadership of a George W. Bush back in the Vietnam War days, we probably would not have lost the war.”
-Tom DeLay, March 9, 2002
“And the reason for that is that if we had the leadership of Fearless Leader in Vietnam we never, ever, would have left. Fearless Leader, can you follow this up with one more Quote that will show your sensitivity to regional issues?”
-Skippy
“My first reaction is history has a long march and societies change and relationships can constantly be altered to the good,” Bush said.
-Associated Press, November 17, 2006
“Ah.. A subtle reference to the Long March, in which the Chinese Communists in 1934 retreated under attack by the Nationalist Party led by Chiang Kaishek. It was a rout of the Communists, but the retreat gave them enough room to rebuild their forces. It is also the event which led to the ascendancy of Mao to the head of the Chinese Communist Party. I’m not sure exactly what the coded message is on this one. Is Dubya talking about retreat in the face of possible defeat? Is it just some words that someone pulled out of a hat that they thought would go over well in south-east Asia? Is he threatening to leave, but later come back more powerful than before?”
-Skippy
“You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
“Here is today’s lesson. Fearless Leader believes that as long as we are fighting a war we can’t lose it, no matter how many soldiers have to die.”
-Skippy
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